In this memorable conversation from SAND 2018 (Science and Nonduality Conference) Peter Levine, the father of trauma therapy work, and Thomas Hübl, a spiritual teacher known for his work integrating healing of collective trauma, discuss the relationship between healing trauma and spiritual growth. One theme that repeats throughout the discussion is that we are all connected through the traumatization of the world, and that the healing of trauma is a way of returning to the wholeness and fullness of living.

Another important point was how to distinguish between individual trauma and collective trauma, within oneself, and when confronted with traumatized people. What can a direct work with collective trauma look like?

Finally, Peter and Thomas answer questions from the audience.